tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post776944550923745552..comments2024-01-17T13:16:10.378-08:00Comments on Joseph4GI: Another Circumcision Death - Wound Would Not Stop BleedingJosephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-25626793923907917442017-08-30T10:51:19.620-07:002017-08-30T10:51:19.620-07:00The more important question for me is, without med...The more important question for me is, without medical or clinical indication, how is it doctors are performing surgery on healthy, non-consenting minors? Let alone giving parents any kind of "choice?"<br /><br />Under any other circumstances, reaping profit from performing non-medical procedures on healthy, non-consenting individuals constitutes medical fraud.<br /><br />Why this one exception?<br /><br />The AAP rigorously reviewed the current body of medical literature surrounding the subject, and while trying to say "the benefits outweigh the risks," they could arrive at a recommendation because in their words, "the benefits weren't great enough."<br /><br />How is it then, that parents are expected to arrive at a more reasonable conclusion?<br /><br />That's what gets me, is how what is supposed to be one of the most respected medical organizations in the world can get away placing the onus of the one job they're supposed to be doing on parents, most of whom don't hold degrees in medicine?<br /><br />Meanwhile children live with botched procedures or even die?<br /><br />Why isn't this questioned at a national level?<br /><br />The short answer is because 80% of us are circumcised from birth and we'd rather look the other way on the national level.<br /><br />That's why.<br /><br />I wonder how many more deaths and complications it will have to take...Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-21445051599195367322017-08-30T10:50:33.646-07:002017-08-30T10:50:33.646-07:00Why doesn't the AAP come out against male infa...Why doesn't the AAP come out against male infant circumcision? Why isn't this practice questioned on a national level? Are parents being given unbiased information?<br /><br />I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that 80% of US males are circumcised from birth, and that people are predisposed to see only so-called "benefits," while downplaying, or outright ignoring detriments and adverse effects of the practice.<br /><br />I don't think doctors are fully informing parents, and even if they tried, I'm not sure parents are interested, as their minds are usually already made up.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-15594010681935517372017-08-30T10:49:48.819-07:002017-08-30T10:49:48.819-07:00So in a culture that already sees circumcision in ...So in a culture that already sees circumcision in a favorable light (a Christian virtue, a Jewish tradition, aesthetically pleasing) or as simply "not a big deal," I think I could see why people would be disinterested in reporting a circumcision death. People have personal, religious, or financial conviction to downplay or ignore adverse circumcision outcomes.<br /><br />"My children survived," some may say. "Circumcision is a tradition that has been around for thousands of years," others may say. What doctor wants to face a fraud or malpractice lawsuit?<br /><br />I don't know what AAP members are obliged to tell parents anymore. Supposedly doctors are supposed to give parents "unbiased information," but their advice to doctors and physicians in their 2012 statement is so self-contradictory and convoluted, it seems doctors are free to tell parents whatever they wish. Worse, despite not being able to commit to a recommendation, their 2012 statement gives doctors who circumcise the words "the benefits outweigh the risks" to feed parents. The AAP statement says "the benefits aren't enough to recommend circumcision," and that the risks and complications of circumcision are "unknown." The current body of medical literature wasn't enough for the AAP circumcision committee to recommend circumcision, yet somehow, parents are asked to come up with a more reasonable conclusion.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-53408290824779343362017-08-30T10:48:58.095-07:002017-08-30T10:48:58.095-07:00It's complicated.
For one, circumcision is ju...It's complicated.<br /><br />For one, circumcision is just so engrained in our culture that having a baby boy circumcised is simply a matter of course.<br /><br />Additionally, Judeo-Christianity has a great influence, where male infant circumcision is seen as a Christian virtue, despite this very thing being dispelled in the New Testament.<br /><br />Not to mention circumcision *is* seen as divine commandment for Jews.<br /><br />The AAP has a delicate balancing act to perform. On the one hand, as a respected medical authority, it has the responsibility of overseeing the dissemination of factual, up-to-date information to both doctors, patients and parents. It cannot take a position that contradicts other respected medical organizations.<br /><br />On the other hand, the AAP is a trade organization whose first priority is the welfare of its members, and cannot take positions or make statements that disenfranchises its members, a great majority who perform circumcisions on newborns.<br /><br />Taking a stance against male infant circumcision would put physicians in the awkward position of having to tell parents who want their child circumcised how to raise their children and to forgo a culturally ingrained, possibly religious custom. It would also put physicians who reap profit from the practice in an awkward position. The medical fraud that is reaping profit from non-medical procedures on healthy, non-consenting individuals would be more obvious.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14190648498809795551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-548248685729133691.post-9013040666981317292017-08-30T02:14:44.412-07:002017-08-30T02:14:44.412-07:00If this had happened in my country Sweden that a t...If this had happened in my country Sweden that a tiny baby had bled to Death following unnessesary cosmetic surgery all major newspapers and TV-channels would have reported, stirring up a national debate. Joseph can you explain why US major newsmedia are uninterested in reporting and debating the suffering and death of this innocent baby. Why isn´t the practise questioned on a national level? Acccording to the AAP, doctors should discuss circumcision with parents and give unbiased information. Do they inform parents that outside USA circumcision is not offerded to parents, no one is asking for it and foreskin problems are virtually unheard of at all ages?Per Lindstrandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14093914814687855562noreply@blogger.com